What's the use of some general KDFX stacks
T. Verelst
In mixing pop, rock, blues and funk, and probably quite a few other
styles as well, ROMpler sounds aren't very alive, "rock an roll"
very little, and sound not quite the same as the original
instruments ongood sound systems, and also lend themselves not so
good to various kinds of studio processing, not even to adding a
Lexicon reverb.
Kurzweil in my opinion is different in that it allows studioi
processing to work for various kinds o sounds, also when playing
piano with a lot of notes, because when I try some complicated
processing I know about from CDs and blurays, the kurzweil starts to
sound pretty good though my effects, and they make sense in the same
way as instruments sound on good CDs (this has to do with Loudness
Curve elements being built into the sound, "rolling" and mid
frequency range "anti-megaphone" processing (to prevent CDs from
sounding to loud without noticing), high frequency warping which
make a nice stereo sound possible, and even the rather standard CD
equalisation curves (basically mid range damping and bass and some
high end lifting, though this is usually done with accurate
equalizer settings, in the case of pro CDs).
That the Kurzweil PC3 (I use the 76 key non-LE non-K machine)
responds well to these types of processing among other things means
that most likely these types of considerations have gone into the
Kurzweil design at some level(s), so I thought I'd try to make it do
sound improvents of some kinds I know about in the machine itself,
using mainly the KDFX (though I also did VAST multi-compression to
bring out details in the samples otherwise unheared).
In this case I've started to make additional effects for mainly ROM
sounds (lower two banks), which change the sounds for the better.
Downloads
Musical examples, a little example practice play-along with a short
Jerry Lee Lewis example (from CD) and the PC3 piano patch (with the
master override effect on, and the Master Settings from below)
master1b.mp3
44.1 kHz, stereo mp3, 256 kilobit/sec, 3 min 02 sec
A demo of 5 sounds I made with these and similar effect chains,
mainly by using ROM sounds and putting in the effects (you could do
the same for similar sounds, even drums work, but it may take
tweaking), the second piano is the same as in the download:
master1.mp3
44.1 kHz, stereo mp3, 256 kilobit/sec, 3 min 02 sec
The piano patch for downloading in the PC3, with associated effects:
stdgrtv4e2l2spb4.pc3
or stdgrtv4e2l2spb4.zip
(same contents for when the download type fails in your browser)
The master settings (EQ/multicompress, and the AUX2-override effect)
master_1851eff.pc3
or master_1851eff.zip
Load these in, and try for yourself, another free download from
theover.org !!
Explaining the effects a bit
In the example piano sound, which is based on an edit I'd done a
while ago with two pitch shifter effects as insert , which is
strange, but it worked, I've changed the soundboard simulation, and
added a sidechain-equalized compressor:
PitcherA --> PitcherA --> Soundbrd/rvb --> Compress w/SC EQ
Aux1 adds a compressed distorted components, which acts as sort of a
"tube" effect, and in some senses appears to satisfy to actually reduce
the perceived distortion in some ways, also when playing chords of a
few or many notes:
HKCompressor 5:1 --> ?Distortion+EQ
Aux2 (when not overridden by the Master section) somehow does some
mid-range averaging that appears to become this patch, and combined
with a nice reverberation:
Expander --> Sweet Flange --> Classic Plate
The averaging and tube subband effects are based on complicated
studio considerations, which to an extend appear to influence the
Kurzweil sound when tried out in it.
When adjusting effect send (on the ProgFX tab in the Program Edit
Mode), or the Wet/Dry of the individual effects (when pressing edit
on the insert or aux1/2 effect numbers), you'll often hear the whole
sound "adjusting" itself in some way, different than using sends on
a mixer: this is the purpose of this exercise!!!
Master Effect Parameters
Use channel 1 in Program Mode to play, and use "Effect-->AuxFX2"
to set override to Yes, use the supplied effect chain from the
download (number 1851 in my case, called "BKubes!CoTV3i6h2" as the
replacement chain, Mod Override to ON, and the upper send level for
channel 1 to (+)2 dB (the lower remains [p]).
Make sure you play channel 1 and that all other channels in Program
Mode are off, by going over all the channels and typing "0" followed
by "enter" on the numerical keypad (so that the effects of other
sounds aren't using up KDFX slots, because we need almost all 16 of
them).
In the effect chain, the first is "SublteDistortion" followed by
"CorusMedChamber", "PseudoAnGtrFlng", and "Widespread".
The Master section, comprised of a 5 band (2 shelving) Parametric
Equalizer, followed (not the other way around in this case that
makes a difference) by the Master (3 band Multi-) Compressor has the
following settings (like follows from the download), must be
"Enabled":
Master EQ:
Para1
In/out
:In
Out Gain : 12dB
Bass Gain : 3.5 dB Treb Gain : -8.0 dB
Bass Freq : 98 Hz Treb Freq : 1047 Hz
Para2
Mid1 Gain : 20.0 dB Mid2 Gain : -16.0
dB
Mid1 Freq : 22 Hz Mid2
Freq : 73 Hz
Mid1 Width: 0.500 Mid2 Width : 0.460
Para3
Mid3 Gain : -2.5 dB
Mid3 Freq : 123 Hz
Mid3 Width : 1.650
Master Cmpr.:
Para1
In/Out: In
Outgain : 14 dB
SC Input : (L+R)/2 ComprsChar: L&R
FdbkComprs: In Crossover1: 311Hz
Crossover2: 9956Hz
Para2
Atk Low : 70.0ms Ratio
Low : 1.2:1
Rel Low : 88ms
Thres Low : -24 dB
Smth Low : 9.6ms MakeUp Low : -7.5dB
Para3
Atk Mid : 0.1ms Ratio Mid
: 2.7:1
Rel Mid : 12ms
Thres Mid : -32 dB
Smth Mid : 0.2ms MakeUp Mid :
-3.5dB
Para4
Atk High : ms Ratio High
: 10.0:1
Rel High : ms Thres High
: -30.0dB
Smth High : ms MakeUp High : -3.0dB
Of course when you're done playing with these settings, youmy want
to switch the Multi Compressor off, and set the all EQ settigns to
0dB. before loading in my Master settings, you may want to save your
own, if you made important changes to the normal neutral settings.
The master compressor and eq work ok with other sounds, but without
the effect 2 override effects, a part of the intention is gone.
Another master section setting I used:
Master EQ:
Para1
In/out
:In
Out Gain : 16dB
Bass Gain : 5.0 dB Treb Gain : -11.0 dB
Bass Freq : 98 Hz Treb Freq : 5920 Hz
Para2
Mid1 Gain : 16.0 dB Mid2 Gain : -18.0
dB
Mid1 Freq : 22 Hz Mid2
Freq : 73 Hz
Mid1 Width: 0.500 Mid2 Width : 0.460
Para3
Mid3 Gain : -2.5 dB
Mid3 Freq : 123 Hz
Mid3 Width : 1.650
Master Cmpr.:
Para1
In/Out: In
Outgain : 10.5 dB
SC Input : (L+R)/2 ComprsChar: L&R
FdbkComprs: In Crossover1: 311Hz
Crossover2: 9956Hz
Para2
Atk Low : 43.0ms Ratio
Low : 2.3:1
Rel Low : 490ms Thres
Low : -28 dB
Smth Low : 9.6ms MakeUp Low : -4.0dB
Para3
Atk Mid : 0.1ms Ratio Mid
: 2.7:1
Rel Mid : 72ms
Thres Mid : -32.0 dB
Smth Mid : 0.2ms MakeUp Mid :
-7.0 dB
Para4
Atk High : 0.0ms Ratio High
: 10.0:1
Rel High : 4ms Thres High
: -33.5dB
Smth High : 0.1ms MakeUp High : 0.0dB
Some further reading
This page on my server
about tube and mid range averaging effects (with 192kHz/32 bit
floating point /channel Linux LADPSA/JACK effects).
A
short example of a ROM
PC3 epiano trough processing (Keyboard magazine Forum)
All
right, all right, another PC3 download (idem) about some
studio effect usage
A
warmer piano sound with tubes (idem)
Chasing
the KwackerKnack ? (cunka forum) about a certain aspect of the
sound engine
Strange
EPiano error (idem) keys not sounding while pressed when
certain "balances" are struck with my sounds
Can
a Kurzweil sound fat analog ? (idem) effects of combined
VAST/KDFX multicompression
A youtube
video I made about low-mid band processing and mid-range
averaging applied to an AC/DC CD, and measurements of the output
signal with 1/3 oct spectrum analysis and a FFT based spectogram,
simultaneously.