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  Mon Nov 10 19:17, 2008

"This page is best viewed on a full HD screen!"
Well it´s kind of a compromise, but generally more the truth than other things.


I´ve been trying out the Sony blu ray player with 7 analog audio outputs, and looked at some more HD DVD´s which were available cheap, because the format is phased out.

Impressions ? The DTS-HD (possibly master) is sounding great, though all tracks sound probably deliberate like it reasonable on my studio-like setup: very dry and short. Rather that than the oppsosite, but it´d be also fun to have some more beefy effects at times, but it´s Blu Ray, not blue super trouper...

I´ve normally set my self made speakers up in quadro, so the .1 and the 5 in 5.1 are mixed in the middle of the main speakers, which works great, but is of course more direction sensitive than having an extra mid channel.

It seems in Blu-ray the middle channel can also be a ´real´ channel, even for large speakers, so it can actually create a good centre sound, but of course this also gives complications with the interfering phases of 3 (or 5) instead 2 (or 4) speakers.

How about the comparison with HD-DVD ? Well, on the 1080 screen (which accepts 1080p, but of course has ´only´ 1920x1200 actual pixels) some things are close to stunning and really good and nice, while most is well visible like on a good monitor, which I prefer to see what the makers have wanted to achieve,



    A birdhouse.




In the picture above I was measuring the distance from a listener to my main speakerto ajust the bluray players signal delay settings.



The same for the (biamped, what a luxury) rear speakers.




The quadro outputs, the internet connection, and the HDMI connection.




Materuals I watched.




Distances can be set but only per 20 cm  with limited maximum, and limted spread IIRC.






Actually the rear (more than side, but that's what yuu get when connecting up quadro) are for most people pretty big already, so often I put them in Big mode too. I'm not sure the player or material makers prepare for over 300 liters of front speakers when they specify 'big'. I doubt it. But Theo, why didn't you connect up the 7.1 outputs properly, bass on the .1, sides middles, etc. that's so boring that 'quadro' setup ! Well, that's because those 17 speaker units and 12 amplifier channels are not full range:I use them for what's called multi-amping, so that speakers will get a seperately amplified, electronically frequency band limited signal which matches their size and function. And then Quadro is in essence enough to create the 'surround' feeling, because the speakers are in each corner and can in principle at the sweet spot create the impression of sounds coming from each desired direction, also from in between speakers, just like with stereo.

Then about those pictures on your page? Yeah? What about them, aren't they cute? They piss people off! Aha, well most of TV and contemporary art has a tendency doing similar things with me and other intelligent and sensitive (in that order) people, so I guess that's pushing the average back to normal 70s levels where it's considered good to make clear what's right and wrong. The images are made to prepare great cinema quality without pixel messing and color style-counseling, such that things can be more normal and variations of pctures and imperfections or deliberate impressions because of style are bon-ton instead of deviations from the Big Brother imposed norm. And of course as advanced engineer (who did follow multidimensional signal processing as a PhD level course some time ago) I like to make clear what the limits are of pixel-f* euh, -messing and that it is more fun to be fairly neutral and desire more resolution and preferably better colour spaces like the great 4 component YMCK (IIRC) monitor from Hewlett Packard I often worked on during my graduation project at Delft University of Technology. So much better things than flashy and fairly braindead commercial-like styles and internet colorings and standard processed video stuff is possible, really, demand better, it is right in this western supposedly free society, I mean in principle I could download a bluray quality film over the internet in half a day or so, so why be so pricky about unimportant optimisation issues when quite nice  HD screens and fast internet connections and computers are getting cheaper and cheaper?!

So until I have that 4k or lets say 8k hundreds of frames per second 6 CCD equiv. camera with wavelett compression and 16 (or more) bits per component output I cant just make a quick picture and expect it to look as approximated as I'd want it to be by some simple processing and I won't pretend anything else! But Theo, you can do that so well, some of those pictures can look like we really really want and like. Yeah, well, I don't get everything I want and like, so why would you, this is all kind of for free, and I have the impression it is better to get people to upgrade to later and better technology than allow them to be pope about their own little pixel processing factory which in practice only works for only a few consumers, depending on what TV or monitor they use. Sorry? No that's my real opinion. And I promote it on purpose. Even for your own good. Might even be good for the non-polluding part of the economy, you know.




Appears to be able to quite well on a monitor which can handle the P (progressive)  component.



Davud Sanborn from the Blu-Ray "Legends", a registration from Eric CLapton, Marcus Miller, David, Steve Gad and Joe Sample at Montreux Jazz in 1997.

I think Hideaway, which I played often in a Jazz combo is from him. Steve is known from the Love Simon and Garfunkel show in Central Park NY, and many other constellations, Marcus is one of the main Jazz-fusion bass players since before this recording making good sounds, Eric of course is known porbably best since his being afriended with Jimmi Hendrix, and Joe is one of the most well known fusion keyvoard players as I knew it.

What a battle they must fight to make fresh and varied and widerange sounds over the PA system in the concert hall, from the looks of it a meyer sound system...

But the quadro (I also tried 5.1/2 by adding a (small) centre) speaker) can sound totally glorious except the pro Jazzers don't go there much with the performance, when used with the provided uncompressed DTS-HD MASTER 5.1 tracks. Like being in a concert but then I'd have to put my amplifiers louder than I want to do. Transparency (and yes I'm aware of the noise averaging and sampling issues with dts sigma/delta-sampling) and full range-ness are definetively great on the used player, and make good use of the connected audio system which when the mid-front was added used 12 amplifier channels and 17 speaker units of mostly almost impacable quality (compared to most things) which is what I built it all for! Perfection? Well, the live recording of course depends on the PA system being used and residuals of the monitors through the microphones, so no, certainly not, I'd say the system used scores moderate, but that's of course ny listening to a big and probably very accurate and powerfull (over a kilowatt of nominally  rated supply transformer power) monitoring system.

I cought myself liking to play on the same audio system with my pretty good 16 bit converter CD audio and liking the sound in spite of the 44.1/16 bit issues because there's not a PA distortion mixed with the signal all the time and of course the very varied materials sound quite varied. However, comparing the PCM voice commentary of Stallone with the DTS-HD track on the same bluray makes clear things can be gained, still, even from there.


Put the lime in the cookin'

Where did you nick that line now, Theo? Euhm, well I thought it was an appropriate expression being used in the closing song of Tarentinos 'Resevoir Dogs'.

I'm sure certain pies taste better when the outside of lemons are used, and that lime can be used for all kinds of sauses and stuff (funny that's the english I'd have to look up some words, then again I worked at a greengrocers when I was 18 and learned some new dutch (foreign) vegetables....

I guess he either makes a comparison with life, or means the films are a bit sour on purpose, to make it not fast food or such that people think it's the tastiest possible.


Let's impeach the president for lying?

Well, also: how about chosing a new one, the right one at the right time for the first time in decades, and the right way, democratically. Well well.

Neil Youngs Living with War site does make one think more right: what's conservatism doing in the army's headquarters, c.q. the presidency when it adds up only to badness. Invasion, democray, finished, is that possible ?


More greek


Flavius Josephus, Antiquitates Judaicae
B. Niese, Ed.:

verse 1:
Τοῖς τὰς ἱστορίας συγγράφειν βουλομένοις οὐ μίαν οὐδὲ τὴν αὐτὴν ὁρῶ τῆς σπουδῆς γινομένην αἰτίαν, ἀλλὰ πολλὰς καὶ πλεῖστον ἀλλήλων διαφερούσας.

Translation into english of the first part (by William Whiston, A.M., 1895):

Those who undertake to write histories, do not, I perceive, take that trouble on one and the same account, but for many reasons, and those such as are very different one from another. For some of them apply themselves to this part of learning to show their skill in composition, and that they may therein acquire a reputation for speaking finely: others of them there are, who write histories in order to gratify those that happen to be concerned in them, and on that account have spared no pains, but rather gone beyond their own abilities in the performance: but others there are, who, of necessity and by force, are driven to write history, because they are concerned in the facts, and so cannot excuse themselves from committing them to writing, for the advantage of posterity; nay, there are not a few who are induced to draw their historical facts out of darkness into light, and to produce them for the benefit of the public, on account of the great importance of the facts themselves with which they have been concerned. Now of these several reasons for writing history, I must profess the two last were my own reasons also; for since I was myself interested in that war which we Jews had with the Romans, and knew myself its particular actions, and what conclusion it had, I was forced to give the history of it, because I saw that others perverted the truth of those actions in their writings. [5] Now I have undertaken the present work, as thinking it will appear to all the Greeks 3 worthy of their study; for it will contain all our antiquities, and the constitution of our government, as interpreted out of the Hebrew Scriptures. And indeed I did formerly intend, when I wrote of the war, 4 to explain who the Jews originally were, - what fortunes they had been subject to, - and by what legislature they had been instructed in piety, and the exercise of other virtues, - what wars also they had made in remote ages, till they were unwillingly engaged in this last with the Romans: but because this work would take up a great compass, I separated it into a set treatise by itself, with a beginning of its own, and its own conclusion; but in process of time, as usually happens to such as undertake great things, I grew weary and went on slowly, it being a large subject, and a difficult thing to translate our history into a foreign, and to us unaccustomed language. However, some persons there were who desired to know our history, and so exhorted me to go on with it; and, above all the rest, Epaphroditus, 5 a man who is a lover of all kind of learning, but is principally delighted with the knowledge of history, and this on account of his having been himself concerned in great affairs, and many turns of fortune, and having shown a wonderful rigor of an excellent nature, and an immovable virtuous resolution in them all. I yielded to this man's persuasions, who always excites such as have abilities in what is useful and acceptable, to join their endeavors with his.

That beats ' vrolijk pasen' and comes from the same time that started... Well nothing a highschool student couldn't know about, but it's the whole picture I'm talking about.


Plato, Symposium

[174ξ] τὰ πολεμικά, τὸν δὲ Μενέλεων ““μαλθακὸν αἰχμητήνHom. Il. 17.587,” θυσίαν ποιουμένου καὶ ἑστιῶντος τοῦ Ἀγαμέμνονος ἄκλητον ἐποίησεν ἐλθόντα τὸν Μενέλεων ἐπὶ τὴν θοίνην, χείρω ὄντα ἐπὶ τὴν τοῦ ἀμείνονος.

ταῦτ᾽ ἀκούσας εἰπεῖν ἔφη ἴσως μέντοι κινδυνεύσω καὶ ἐγὼ οὐχ ὡς σὺ λέγεις, Σώκρατες, ἀλλὰ καθ᾽ Ὅμηρον φαῦλος ὢν ἐπὶ σοφοῦ ἀνδρὸς ἰέναι θοίνην ἄκλητος. ὅρα οὖν ἄγων με τί ἀπολογήσῃ, ὡς ἐγὼ μὲν οὐχ ὁμολογήσω ἄκλητος


in english (a 1925 translation):
[174c] and Menelaus as only ““a spearman spiritless,””1 he makes the latter come unbidden to the banquet of the former, who was offering sacrifice and holding a feast; so the worse man was the guest of the better.”

To this my friend's answer, as he told me, was: “I am afraid mine, most likely, is a case that fits not your version, Socrates, but Homer's—a dolt coming unbidden to the banquet of a scholar. Be sure, then, to have your excuse quite ready when you bring me; for I shall not own to coming unasked,



http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/searchresults.jsp?q=Agamemnon


from the Scott Liddell lexicon:

Ἀγαμέμνων , ονος, o(,
A. Agamemnon, Hom., etc.: Ἀγαμέμνονος δαίς, of a fatal feast, Eust.1507.60:—also epith. of Zeus at Sparta, Staphylus Hist.10, Eust.168.10.—Adj. Ἀγα^μεμνόνεος , έα, εον, Hom., also ἀγαλμο-όνειος , εία, ειον, and ἀγαλμο-όνιος , ία, ιον, Pi., A.: Patron.

Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by. Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie. Oxford. Clarendon Press. 1940.

The National Science Foundation provided support for entering this text.


 revelation 6:17

[17] ὅτι ἦλθεν ἡμέρα μεγάλη τῆς ὀργῆςαὐτῶν, “καὶ τίς δύναται σταθῆναι;”

in english

for the great day of his wrath has come; and who is able to stand?"